Same with apologies. Amen brother. In one case, victims claimed the church knowingly moved a pedophile to another city without warning parents. Had not thought of that. He can immediately be restored to God. But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. episode has aired, viewers are eager to find out what will happen in the Blue Bloods Season 13 Episode 15: You know that each episode of Blue Bloods consists of multiple storylines that all somehow relate to each SWAT Season 6 Episode 16 [Blowback] Luca makes a major decision, Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 15: Meet the newest Cooper. Tracked down at the bar on a recent weeknight, the well-dressed ex-pastor looks no different from the days when he preached to thousands of followers. Once again MLD is right. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. what is your motive for this? I actually do not answer yes to all your questions. Coy's preaching career ended, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary. Though we may seem callous about what has transpired, that could not be further from the truth. The following day, the victim told the police that she was not ready to proceed with a criminal investigation unless a second person came forward. David was a man after Gods own heart. Andy, the whole passage is figurative or symbolic. That is actually their responsibility. (Update: The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy and says it had no inkling of the allegations against him.) Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. Andy, How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. Chuck Missler and John Hagee wrote exactly what you are trying to sell. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. What is 1,00 yrs to God? Answer mine first! "That changes today. If he had been going around dipping his quill in several other inkwells and coming back to sis for access you get the picture, I would personally go over to him and beat him up and help toss his butt out of the house. you did well last night, you were being played, and you still shown like a bright light in the dark! Hes a great teaching no matter what. All. It is the second-largest megachurch in Florida, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. what is your real motives for this? G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. Also read the 2nd to last paragraph from June. Im not amill, but that was a ludicrous statement. Calvary Doral, Boynton Beach, Coral Springs and now Fort Lauderdale. An ongoing issue. Satan is a liar, a thief and that is why it is soooo important for the body of Christ to pray for ALL pastors and their families and for all churchesand for our own families.continually.I cant be there for the meeting but my friends will be and they will be heartbroken..but we need to pray for Diane and the children and Not look at them wronglyPastor Bob needs continual prayer because I know with all my heart if he could turn back the clock he would have asked for help.. Calvary was his life and his families years ago in another church I was in a similar thing happened ..the pastor had built the church up to an enormous congregation in Orlando.and years later he came back not to his church but to ministries and the end of his life was his best. Use grace. And then others might go in the other direction. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. I agree. Have you surveyed all men to know that I am the only one. I have not been to this site in quite sometime (If anyone doubts that , Im sure Michael can verify that, right Michael?) You will tow the line no matter what. We do not know if he has repented and maybe his unrepentance (if it is) is why he did not stand before the congregation. As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. Youre not speaking Gods words, youre talking out your sanctimonious backside and youre in sin. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? There were only a select few who could say anything about anything. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. , : - -, - -. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. I have prayed mightily for Bob, Diane and their two teenage children and I have prayed for all the saints. BTW I was present at that city commission meeting. Miracles are still happening on earth. A Calvinist sniffing for sin and pointing the finger at those who have been successful with a different paradigm, and relishing in the fall of those who do not hold his view, seems to be very suspect and stinks of ulterior motives. of course not, youll jump somewhere else. Mother and daughter are reeling from shock..asking themselves why they did not recognize the absence of authentic Christian character in the fallen mega-pastor. Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. Coy and family have spent much of last few days with pastors and friends in prayer and counseling. There was a time many years ago that many good families were leaving. Hopefully the believers will recover quickly and put their faith in Jesus to find a new place or to remain, but they will need to examine their faith first. RiBo, I hope this will eventually lead to full media exposure of your step-dads alleged molestation of your brother and abuse of you, as well as CCs gross negligence in endorsing him to this day. after being a Christian? The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. Getting professional help gives you a partner to help you resolve these. Whats up with that? Seriously? When my Bible says that WHOSOEVER WILL BELIEVE IN HIM will not perish but have everlasting life then anything else is garbage! Saw something bad coming at the church when they allow immoral behavior by their congregation and do nothing. None are incapable of doing very bad things after they are saved and many on here point to guys like King David who was a polygamist who had sex slaves, committed adultery, murdered the husband of his mistress and was generally a bad guy for big chunks of his lifeyet he was a man after Gods own heart. Police say Thomas has admitted to the abuse (though his criminal trial is pending). God bless you Ging, you are a living testimony of the power of Gods word when it is preached and taught oftentimes in spite of the faulty instruments that we can be. He claims his record as pastor at Calvary Chapel was unblemished by sexual harassment or molestation claims. Of course all of this is only necessary if Bob continued his maneuvering with long tethers to his followerscause thats how unhealthy people of influence roll. Olivia Wilson is the senior news writer for TV Acute. MLD is too old to be tempted. There is a reason God forgives us. I like Bob, I served there for over a decade and he has proclaimed from the pulpit he struggles in the area of pride and women. Do you ever think about the emotional damage you cause these women or the families you break up? Did I also read that Coy did not write his sermons and that this is common knowledge? According to Jesus definition of adultery, you are just as much an adulterer as Bob Coy is! Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80893448288/log-out. I attribute you and/or the blog here whenever I write about something that you broke, its just how its supposed to be done. Something really big is going to come out soon. Where is bob? I was exposed to pornography at a very early age. We arent saved by our actions, we arent saved by our morality, we arent saved by our correct doctrine. This is very important Michael. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. The call came from California. Lets let our new folks visit and vent. As someone who has been a casualty of infidelity, such candor and humility helps to answer some of my own long unhealed hurts from that time. This got the ball rolling and ultimately he resigned because the board wouldve gone public if he didnt. Charles Ward SmithJune 25, 1927 Ventura, California, U.S. October 3, 2013 (aged 86) Newport Beach, California, U.S. (1) Faith in Jesus: Check; (2) Mega-anything = mega-bad: Check. But peace to you anyways. In Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 14 Recap, Cooper's imminent delivery is approaching. Anon, I cant really say how I know. not being married doesnt answer the question, thats why i said fornication, or do you feel that if youre not married you can sleep with someone without being married, also when was the last time you viewed pornography?.remember lying is a sin! As a doctrine, it leads people to follow the antichrist who comes to unite the worlds belief systems. When you have availability and opportunity its just a matter of time. Prayers for restoration and healing of the flock and his family. RiBo wrote: The danger with the Calvary Chapel transformation Gospel is that it makes your walk and your fruit the evidence of your official saved-ness. Listen to my advise forget what others are doing if you are having issues with porn, just stop it. Nearly 18 years on and there is still so much for the Lord to heal. Those board members probably realize that his broken trust with the congregation is one that cannot be regained with Bobs words. If someone tried to start a ministry that they had no control over (even Bible studies) they were often shut down. You wait your turn. None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. "We need to stop him. he made a huge mistake. But to be honest, I dont think eschatology should be a dividing line doctrine that some folks put it into. The4Gospels present Him as Risen, do you trust in, rely on, and cling to this Risen Jesus as your only source of life? No thats not a fulfillment of prophecy, that was just those pesky Zionists, who made that happen, no it wasnt God fulfilling his word and the prophecies in the O.T concerning Israel. As planned, Jake was going to donate a kidney to her. 11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. I dont know if I can remember everything I said. Throwing me under the bus is not a wise or godly decision. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people," he added, refusing to provide more details about the scandal. What Coy did is wrong, he committed adultery. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. I have had pets with more emotional and spiritual maturity than you. The CC dove poops again. This is awful. I guess you are a disciple of Luther, youre not anti Semitic like he was are you? I have no issue with him looking at porn. 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Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accused of molesting a girl when she was 4 years old and into her teens. Many asked what where his motives for this if not selfish and serve serving and THAT is NOT of GOD!!!!!! This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. His gray goatee is neatly trimmed, and he wears a light-blue plaid shirt and expensive jeans. Those who follow this world view of monogamy for a lifetime as you yourself know from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife, know that its bound to fail, because as men we are not wired that way, as much as a woman would want that to be the case, so what it really comes down to is how well each man hides it! The root of Calvary's problems, critics say, lies in its unique structure. You represented well. I knew his daughter, he was a good dad. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Maybe I can help you with the math 42 months = 3.5 years 1260 days = 3.5 years. I do wish he had faced the congregation, it would be helpful in the cleansing and restoration process, besides Ive seen him hold people accountable publicly and so should he but thats water under the bridge. Explain to me how you could take communion at 3 services and then go bang someone else?? This has grown way beyond the BC travesty, its become a volley of hate. Well my friends it will not be too big anymore. WIKI article is pretty good. The church clearly did not think this. Especially two in particular in my personal circles. Andy, did you get your 691 out of a Chick comic book? I am not particularly attractive and it never ceases to amaze and disgust me when men will make a fool out of themselves in front of me and horribly, in front of their wives. If I was a new believer ( and Im not, its been 40 years) I would run fast, away from this apparent hate tank if I thought this was the body because thats what this has become- a hate tank. Or your own wife and children if you have any. He ran gay-conversion groups and preached that all nonbelievers would go to Hell. Yet Andy made about 30 comments after saying it wasnt worth talking to me. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Maybe God never intended for Bob to have the mega church, Bob has said many times publically he would rather has a small congregation of true believers than thousands of people playing church. Also keep in mind that many here have something in common and that is bad experiences with churches and pastors, while some of us remain to try and minister and fellowship, as well as listen and empathize, with those hurts. I was there. My information says fired. A poor man has the few options left to him when she leaves him with his shame. You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. Sure glad its over. You are correct. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Church was in incredible debt via a terrible lease. Either way its wrong to take satisfaction as I did when others have fallen. Andy, I will not play your game. v.23 and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him, v.25 and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.. The fact of the matter is, this doctrine has probably been used by Coy over the years to strike at others. You can try and stick anything on me you like. Bummer. Coy is twisting in the wind. I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. They were about 630 employees last count. When you find out I spoke the truth are you going to apologize and repent in the community you accused me in? Chuck Smith did it to mehe got diagnosed with cancer a month laterdied a year later to the day. Earthly consequences can be different for levels of sin but not in Gods eyes. Andy, I saw no verses posted by you AND you have not shown where Jesus spoke of this 1,000 yr earthy reign. Unfortunately, Bob Coy like thousands of ministers and leaders throughout the ages before him, thought that the means and process and seeming results justified the end. Because this is a personal matter, any further questions would be best addressed to Bob Coy himself.". We must keep our eyes fixed on JESUS. And I know firsthand that some of the Pastors of these churches knew by mid-week what was going down. On the issue of DC his wife- if you read her page on the church website she explains that she left ministry to raise her kids and be home for Bob. I wonder how this Bob Coy episode of Christian failure will end. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. If this is all true theres a lot of lessons to learn here and maybe its time people started apologizing to Rick Warren who has demonized through the years. In other words you are fighting for a literal 1,000 yr period for a non existent kingdom. Anyone can read it and see what was said. Its the theology of sin management so inherit in CC theology. Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. How do you know that Isaiah is speaking of the millennium other than Missler or some other end times guru told you. That is not a word to blame another person but to remember that we are often seduced by our own desires. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. The revelations come at a sensitive moment for Calvary's national network of about 1,800 churches, which have been riven by legal infighting and dogged by claims that bad pastors have been allowed to run amok. All the best that money can buy. Is this what was meant or was Nebuchadnezzar telling them to get it as hot as possible? I pray that Bob Coy hasnt left decades of bodies in his wake, and I will be praying for them (nameless as they may be to me) and for his church and family to recover. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. Florida newspapers are covering it now. Barbara. I know nothing more then that he got caught. Wow, the kingdom is disappointing. May God have mercy, and may God use situations like this to remind all of us just how vulnerable we are when we do that which is right in our own eyes. I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. Coy will have to pay for that at the judgment. I lost my job because of saying NO, but was made to look like I was a horrible employee. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. In 1997, Coddington was inducted into the Hot Rod Hall of Fame.[11]. MLD wrote: But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. Thank you for giving us this resource. I just wish I could walk away from everything with millions in my pocket when I get caught. you really are a gossip monger. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. Not everyone should stay married for their reputation in a church. we were gone by then. The ones with the largest pledge or most generous givers, got a more intimate dinner with DC and BC. Both guilty? Bob chose to do that. If you are blessed, you may find one to lay your weary self at for a while. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. I guess you deemed references to lying in the Bible as Calvinist, so they dont apply to you. Let him be restored to the churchs love. Googlogian. Them coy has no grounds to sue you. I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. Pastor John has always publicly spoken about his sins of adultery, Im not aware of Fidels but I am aware of others, regardless this isnt about the leaders more so than the entire body. Only at least Coy got caught for his stuff, my step-dad CC pastor still gets away with it. I dont know anything about John Hagee (I dont watch TV), and as for Chuck Missler, I never listened to him. Coy says he was never approached by the police about the allegations. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. Something wrong there. Are we to perform a witch hunt now? Daughter- There area few Pastors there (wont mention names) that have taken on BCs mannerisms and style. Thanks for the attribution Michael, thats how it went down. Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. Your. Let the matter sort itself out and let him rail away like a coyote in the night wind. People who know what they are talking about get bored real fast. local news and culture, Tim Elfrink Those in his wake need compassion. . God said enough was enough and bang asshole your doneyou scammed enough of my people. You dont have any morals.your life is a lie. When, oh when will the sin sniffing and salivating over someones moral failurecome to an end? 2y; View 3 more comments . Hugh are you trolling or is this some sort of gag and spoof? I believe it was originally 103 until those 2 donors backed out. How do you KNOW that Israel on the Mediterranean is the Israel of God? Ive never been married. It was also difficult to be someone who had discernment there. Matt Tague, former assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was fired by the church after he was arrested in May on six counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. The guilty person must be reprimanded publicly to generate remorse that may lead to his repentance. Answer truthfully now! Time for restoration. Im still waiting! Also, by that time there were a few millionaires who attended. This is a subject matter that is common and not just to Calvary Chapel but to all churches and to all spheres and walks of life, and something that no one has mentioned is the spiritual warfare we are in, and how anyone who is seeking to serve the Lord or preaches his word will be attacked, its not surprising that Bob Coy fell, what is surprising is that more men who are serving the Lord arent falling. So I would say there is a different parrot on this post and its the parrot that mimics a heretic named John Calvin! Diane Coy is on Facebook. This is all speculation and I dont think MacArthur should do this kind of thing. He's an engaging storyteller "somewhere between Billy Graham and Billy Crystal," the Miami Herald once suggested with an easy laugh and a voice that excitedly rises into high nasal registers. What do you do, you just put up little sayings to avoid answering the question, it doesnt change the question, its still waiting to be answered! Just tired of picking up the pieces of the wreckage. There are MANY CC satellite churches in this whole region, all 3 counties, that beam him in via video for Sunday services all of them depend on BCs teaching and preaching. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing.. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. What a disappointment especially as I know many who have thought well of him. My advice, not that Im anybody, is to keep your eyes on God an always seek MATURE counsel. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. When we fall, we have to model the humility and fidelity to the Scriptures that we demand they recognize.then model the love, grace, and restoration to the body that proves our complete fidelity. May The Lord continue to bless you in your growth as you discover your gifts and calling and use them for the furtherance of his kingdom, my prayers are with you and CCFL, that God would be in complete and total control as he ordains those he has called to lead in this difficult hour, for we know that God is on the throne and he never fails! Not a witch hunt at all. Well, Coy will have a chance b/c it sounds like its women and not men. As I said above, look how many men think that the light casual joking around is not harmful when they are actually sending out and allowing themselves to receive horny vibes. If true that absolutely stuns me. Long before his epic fall from grace, the pastor used his own struggles with sex and drugs to preach that anyone could find redemption in Jesus. The Apostle Peter in Acts 2 at Pentecost states that Christ sitting on Davids throne is a present day event. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. Im still waiting to see if you disagree with Luther on anything. No, your position has replaced Jesus Christ who is the sum and substance of all prophecy, with the nation state of Israel. The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail: http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-1-mark-of-beast.html http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-2-slave-book.html http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/. Just one final thing, after youve read those 4 books, just stop, dont go any further. Sauder read a letter Bob Haskins wrote, talked briefly about Bob not being there, then turned it to Satan being at work, and how this is a time to look at ourselves. This is a test from God and you have failed it miserably my friend. We all have Consciences and generally know right from wrong (some disagree on some issues as being moral or immoral but in general). Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians. Back 160 yrs ago Martin Stephan led the Lutherans from Saxony to America. Praying for all involved and also praying for those casting stones and pointing fingers. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. I am not too sure he wanted a small group of believers because the building kept getting larger to accommodate all that were being brought in. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. Antonio. Michael said, Who is his congregation? So how many women have you used and discarded to satisfy your lust? ", "I haven't prayed enough for my Pastor Bob and his family," Beth Graber wrote. I blame myself somewhat for allowing myself to be afraid of confronting him since I had no physical evidence. I honestly applaud you. Smith, the founder of the Jesus People and the Calvary Chapel movement, and one of the most influential figures in modern American Christianity, died Thursday morning at his home in Newport Beach after a two-year battle with lung cancer, church officials said. But the real power will be shown if within the church familys context, they watch a humbled Bob emerge and heal and discover God anew.