That wont change and logistically the 6 ARC is still at baby steps. It is reported to be very accurate, but its aura is eclipsed by the shadow of the 6mm PPC. Variations on a theme. Each rifle ships with one 10-round magazine. Should I consider another upper? In the 1970s, I had a Remington Model 700 BDL so chambered, and I took my first Texas whitetail with it. Overall, the 6mm ARC delivers optimum all-range performance and barrel life. Rifle cartridges (l. to r.) .308 Win, 6mm ARC, 300 AAC, .223 Rem, Hornady 6mm ARC Cartridge - What You Need to Know, Public Introduction - 6.5 Creedmoor - 6mm-ARC-Public-Introduction-Rev-2020-06-18.pdf, Brand new rifle caliber: 6 mm ARC, Hornady's Advanced Rifle Cartridge! While it did well the clear winner was the 6CM, high BC and extra velocity are hard to overcome at this range. Its all about the lack of correlation between mapping out rounds on a computer and sending them downrange at targets measured in yards. Another interesting development is the 6mm Dasher that was developed by Al Ashton and benchrest gunsmith Dan Dowling. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? For those using 6.5 Grendel, its a 5-minute barrel change. Consistency remained about the same with 2 or 3 out of five the norm. I had a heavy-barreled Sako single shot in the 1970s, and it shot like almost all 6mm PPCs: great. How about the 26, 27, 28, and 30 Noslers? But since there is no factory ammo, 24 Nosler shooters must handload. Some tactics never die, they just get regenerated. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. Cleaned it all but twice missing one cold shot at this range. And thats the subject of this article: chronicling my first loads (I did not have factory ammunition to test) and validating claims related to 6mm ARC performance. MV consistency matters a great deal at extended ranges. 6mmBR is not the easy button it is the easiest button. Introducing the Silencerco SCO15 Lower Do We Need Another AR-15 Lower? I also measured five fired but not resized factory 6mm ARC cases. Barrel-length is an issue. I tested dozens of loads, mostly with benchrest bullets, and the rifle shot well. Top loads used H322, W748, and Reloder 7 powders with 65-, 68-, and 75-grain match bullets. was introduced in Remingtons Model 722 short-action bolt gun, and while the Model 722 was a very accurate rifle, it was rather plain. I don't shoot past 300 and dead is dead. With the 6PPC you have to turn necks and fire-form the cases from smaller 220 Russianbrass. Its accuracy is simply phenomenal, and it makes a superior varmint cartridge. : 0.330 VELOCITY (FPS - feet per second) POWDER 3000 3100 3150 3200 3250 of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. To set up a viable 6mm ARC vs. these other calibers, I set 100-meter zeros, then confirmed at 1100 meters providing a proven hold at range. Brought out by Hornady just a few months ago, this moderate-sized round is based on the 6.5 Grendel and shares similar rim and body dimensions. muvef Junior Member. Required fields are marked *. You can boost the performance of the 6mm ARC in a bolt action quite easily. Probably not. This increased size means the 243 has a case capacity of 53-54.8 gr H2O. With the release in 2020, Hornady also launched three factory loads with 103,105 and 108gr (6.7,6.8 and 7.0g) bullet weights and advertised G1 ballistic coefficients of .512, .530 and .536 respectively.[6]. Facebook; Twitter; Pinterest; Related Articles. Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information on this website. So adopting the cartridge should be, for many shooters, convenient and affordable. | all4shooters, Hornady's NEW 6mm ARC & Odin Work's Barrels - www.gunsamerica.com, gununiversity.com | 6mm ARC Released / Hands-On Testing and Comparisons, by Ryan Cleckner 3 June 2020, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=6mm_ARC&oldid=1137943385, Articles with unsourced statements from July 2020, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2021, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 05:30. 6.5 Grendel vs. 6mm ARC Ballistics. I fall into the latter category. You could get hits at 900 meters with all of them, 5 shot strings were easiest with the Creedmoors and they ruled at 1100 meters. The ballistics look great. Shooters greeted the .244 Rem. and 6mm Rem., but it pushes them a little faster. The cartridge is specifically designed to maximize performance in AR-15s with barrels between 12 and 24 inches. Take a look at any good ballistics program Hornady and Federal both have an easy-to-use program on their websitesand you'll see the advantage of the better B.C. The Barnes 80-grain Tipped Triple-Shock BoatTail sizzles with a velocity of 3,226 fps with a safe loading of VihtaVuori N550 powder, and the Speer 90-grain Hot-Cor can easily achieve 3,115 fps with VihtaVuori N160. and puts more impact splash on steel plates than any .224 rounds. Mag. In most woods that I was hunting in at that time, I couldn't . Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for both varmint and deer hunting and target shooting. Range Report 6mm ARC vs 6 PPC vs 6 Grendel. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. Or hunting? The original 6 mm/.244 Rem is basically the .257 Roberts/7x57 case necked down, while the 6 mm BR Rem/Norma (only slightly different case specs between them) are much shorter cases. for decades and have experienced no odd problems with it. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. Like the grendel though you probably don't want to run high pressures on an ar bolt though. Todays fast-twist .223s and heavy bullets have made it effectively obsolete. However, after completely missing five consecutive bucks with my 6mm, I decided that I needed to hunt with that Remington 6mm like I hunted with my 2-3/4 inch 12 gauge. Always used manufacturers published load data! The 24 Nosler is exceptionally accurate and mild mannered and has cleanly taken numerous midsized big-game animals. Velocities were established from a 24-inch barrel. If you are looking for 6mm ARC ammunition, components, or parts/gear, check out the following: Dont miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make sure youre subscribed! I don't know the velocity, but I suspect something under 3k. 75 GRAIN BULLETS SECTIONAL DENSITY: 0.181 DIAMETER: 0.243" 75 gr. Here was my strategy to extrapolate my results to the likely scenario of the 24 test barrel: Heres the work-up: (pressure listed is MAX projected, not average). Savage already offers a few more inexpensive options in 6mm ARC though defiantly not a mini action. This morning, using the same scale and method as Gavin, I measured the case capacity using water weight in two sets of fired but not resized cases. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. All barrels will be . The .223 75-grain bullet, by contrast, drifts more than 15 inches at that range, and the ARC's advantage becomes more pronounced at longer ranges. ), 6mm ARC brass (new), 6.5x47 (New) Sierra 6mm Gamechanger 90gr and 6.5 130gr Gamechanger, Update on my BadRock 6mm ARC bolt gun and new Hornady Podcast, Custom 700 in 6mm Norma BR (ARC, Timney, Bartlein) *Price drop*. You can get the 6XC brass in Norma which is very good. It is accurate, produces good velocities, and the copper eraser stuff in this powder makes barrel cleaning a breeze. If you want to shoot at distance with your AR-15, this is the cartridge. I did not try to shoot past 900 today because of limited ammo and Applied Balistics indicates that at 2550 FPS MV these 108s are going transsonic just past 900 and I didnt want to waste the last few shots. Does the 6 mm arc not have 30 degrees shoulder angle?is wikipedia wrong? Even with the cost of the Proof Research barrel it doable. HunterMann Well-Known Member LRH Team Member Joined Jan 18, 2021 Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I did not have time to work up a load for accuracy, so Ill defer that discussion for a future post. They held a very consistent 34.58 grains of water. 6 ARC Testing To set up a viable 6mm ARC vs. these other calibers, I set 100-meter zeros, then confirmed at 1100 meters providing a proven hold at range. Mag. The sudden popularity of the AR-15 platform rifle has inspired a flurry of new, short cartridges that fit its short magazine. Im interested in a direct comparison to the 224 Valkyrie and the 6 mm ARC. Mag., the 6mm-204 essentially recreates the 6x47. Dave Bahde Dr. WT? Jeff, did you mean to type - 6.5BR? In 1955, on the heels of the .243 Win., the .243 Rock Chucker was modified slightly by Remington and became the .244 Remington. The deer load had a 100-grain bullet, and the varmint load carried an 80-grain bullet. He gave it a 32-degree shoulder and called it the .243 Rock Chucker.. Your email address will not be published. The 6mm ARC is a more aerodynamic bullet than the 6.5 Grendel. This rifle originally started out as a 224 Valkyrie using their IRMT upper and NX15 lower. Factory match rounds start at 155 grains and go up. Twist rate was one turn in 10 inches, which handled the 100-grain deer bullets nicely. The second set of data is loaded to a MAP of 62,000 psi, which is stated to be for use with bolt action guns such as the CZ 527. The 6 ARC proved at 2720 fps with a Density Altitude of 8800 feet. Clearly better to galivant around the countryside with then an AR10. It still turns the steel and is very consistent holding 9 mils at the top. .563) from wobbling, the 6mm ARC will need at least a 1:7 twist. 6mm ARC The newest 6mm factory round is the recently announced 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge). The rim diameter of the 6mm ARC is 0.441 inches, while the 243 is slightly larger at 0.471 inches. Velocity can be a factor, but given the same weight, recoil should be similar so I kept the weights as close as possible. It is based on the 6.5 Grendel case, and time will tell if it, too, becomes one of the great ones. The IRMT upper locks the barrel in place with unparalleled rigidity. All of the eyeball'ed loads produced sub-MOA groups. by David Bahde | Dr. the problem is your average guy wants to shoot a long ways, they don't get the fast and light principles. However, 25.3 inches of drop at 400yds is by no means terrible. The .223 does have advantages, though. Will it become my 1000 yards rifle, maybe, it is working against the 224V and the jury is still out and will be until I get my hands on their TAP round, Ill keep you posted. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. remains a solid performer with todays high-tech bullets, new powders, and fast-twist rifle barrels. The old 243 Winchester can beat that by about 300 fps. Factory ammunition at normal prices (if that exists anymore) suitable for defense, duty, target, and hunting is more available than similar calibers after decades of use. The high B.C. Availability of factory ammo may be a plus for the 6ARC. Both were termed Pointed Soft Point Core-Lokt bullets. Your email address will not be published. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. For this load, I shot a group of 3 shots on the chronograph, and observed the following: (better chrono data coming in future stories, I had limited components and time). Typical social media and industry speculation fired up with a fury. I had a 6mm Norma BR built on a Remington 700 and I could not get it to feed from the magazine. Hunting inside 300 meters the 300 HAMR rules that realm. The hunter can add about 100 to 150 fps of additional velocity to most game-weight bullets. Distance is its forte and with its 2020 introduction and ability to flatten the trajectory curve, the 6mm ARC might ought to have been called the "Corona cartridge.". A new 100-grain factory deer load completed the rounds metamorphosis. Thats only a minor impediment for serious riflemen. Of course, handloading the 6mm Creedmoor is a reloaders dream. I tried a test one time after that ladder test, I decided to eyeball the powder amount in the case. Poll: Whats your number one reason for reloading? The 6mm ARC was designed to match specific DOD requirements while fitting in the AR15 platform. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. The 6mm ARC is a brand new cartridge that Hornady designed to fit into a standard AR-15. Has any one who has both ever measured the case capacity (H2O) My google foo has failed me. I wasn't going to take a shot at more than 50 or 60 yards and would take my time before I squeezed the trigger. Quickload can be frustrating when there is more than 10 FPS difference between calculated and measured MV. Each session started with a cold shot at 100 meters confirming zero while showing repeatability out of the bag. 6 BR REM, not 6.5. If you are looking for reams of data or ringing steel the size of a car move on, I am NOT that guy, you will be very disappointed. Making those tweaks often feels like creating a powder that doesnt really exist. Location. The Hornady 6mm ARC takes the 24-caliber into record territory the slowest muzzle velocity of any commercial cartridge propelling .243 bullets. remains a runaway hit to this day. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }, Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer:(by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms), This section is from my 6mm ARC Announcement Post. The .240 Wby. I also confirmed velocity for existing conditions. was everything the .244 Rem. As the dust settled and reality set in this dissipated a bit. Pretty cool having a light-weight AR-15 that can accurately shoot out to at least 900 yards. Probably the most recoil came out of the 6 Creedmoor. My wife has a Ruger American in 6mm Creedmoor, and it is the only round that has been able to pry her away from her beloved .270 Winchester. But on paper it looks promising. It is based on the previous 22 Nosler and has two features to make it compatible with AR-type rifles: a slightly rebated rim that is the same diameter as the .223 Remington and an overall cartridge length set at 2.26 inches, the same as other AR rounds. Posts: 11,077. The problem is that Hornady, which developed the 6 mm ARC, made a slight alteration to the case length so that it would be compatible with very long 6 mm bullets that have a high BC. 6mm ARC has the potential to be the most versatile cartridge of all time for a few reasons: (1) 6mm ARC can handle projectiles anywhere between 55 and 115 gr. 223 Rem., and most other cartridges that fit AR-15 length magazines and rifles. Lower velocity means less flame and heat for longer barrel life. My speed is significantly slower ( 50 FPS) than Gavins at 2552 FPS with an SD of 6. The 6mm ARC's more efficient projectiles with their high BCs provides superior exterior ballistics with noticeably less wind drift, higher retained velocity and greater retained energy. Low velocity from a short cartridge means it fits in a shorter, potentially stiffer action which can contribute to increased accuracy. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the first CMMG Endeavor 300 6mm ARC AR-15 Rifles, and it has been awesome to shoot! (The company envisioned it as primarily a deer-hunting round, with occasional use on varmints.) Theres more coming related to 6mm ARC! The 6mm ARC is designed to run in existing in M4 rifle platforms. Which it does pretty well within those limitations. Due to the lower MAP, the performance of 6mm ARC ammunition loaded to gas-gun pressures will, on average, be less than firearms loaded to bolt action pressures when using the same barrel length. What explains that? It uses the ever-effective Hornady 100-grain RN InterLock with H4350 powder. Curious? They built these rifles with great attention to detail. Mag. Heres a quick look at the best of this cohort. It hits way above its weight class. So what about Hornadys published 2,750 fps number for the 108 grain ELD-M bullets in 6mm ARC? LMT shot softer, exhibited a tank-like build, and proved great to shoot. Remington surmised that the .244 would be used mostly as a varmint cartridge, with only an occasional application on deer-sized game, so the initial factory ammo was loaded with a 75-grain bullet. You can get a 6 to 6.5 pound rifle which can shoot high B.C. Lets now realistically compare the 6mm ARC vs. five of its perceived competitors. 6mm BR vs 6mm BRA vs 6mm Dasher. Will it supplant mainstream calibers? This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Maximum Cartridge Overall Length is 2.26. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Will it be my go-to bang away rifle, not likely. I had a 20 AR-15 to test with, so I had to do some math :). Above: 6mm ARC case capacity measured 33.96 grains H2O. Commercial 6mm ARC offerings will feature bullets selected to deliver ideal performance for hunting, match shooting and personal protection applications. Hey Gavin and fellow Ultimate Reloader Fans: I had a chance to do more testing today as I finally received some Hornady factory 105 grain Black ammunition. So, the 6mm ARC outperforms any magazine length 5.56x45mm NATO load simply through a combination of sheer horsepower and more efficient projectiles. Blue collar reloading had 25 boxes of brass right now. 6.8 SPC The 6mm ARC has more match bullet options and is a better long-range performer. All testing was completed using 108 grain ELDM from Hornady. Share. The 6 ARC proved at 2720 fps with a Density Altitude of 8800 feet. Using QuickLoad, I worked up the following load: For this load, I shot a group of 5 shots on the chronograph, and observed the following: This load produced very mild indications of pressure on the case rim, and functioned in the rifle well. Absolutely, but not significantly better than the 224V with the 90 grain SMK. It started as a popular wildcat before its approval by SAAMI. Joined: Jun 2002. Twist rate is 1:7.5 to stabilize the long 105- to 108-grain high B.C. As for the 6ARC, I would take a vital shot at 600 meters without hesitation given a solid platform. I shot out to 700 yards next with .4 to .5 MOA accuracy and ended the day putting 3 out of 3 shots on the 900 yard gong in a .4 MOA group. There is no magnum behind those titles, yet they are fastest or close to fastest in their calibers. (Maybe in 6mm ARC? Between 600-1100 was a different story, everything but the 6.8 SPC did well out to 800 meters including the 6 ARC hitting with a bit more authority than the rest. Cartridge experimentation was in its heyday in the 1950s, and it was a rare cartridge case that didnt get shortened, blown out, or necked up or down. Ok from the perspective of one 6mm ARC lover. Some tactics never die, they just get regenerated. But no matter, new is new. There aren't any markings on the barrel, but it was advertised as being a 6 BR REM and the reloads that came with it seemed to chamber fine when the barrel was still attached to the action. 6MM ARC AR-15 Barrels for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! There is a lot of hoped for or imagined history related to the 22 BR and 6 BR cartridges. 6mm ARC: Fact or Fiction? It is NOT for use in AR-15 style (gas gun) rifles. Then theres Hornadys new 300 PRC, Weatherbys 6.5-300 Weatherby, and several more modern speed demons. It fits in an AR mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. pavementends Junior Member. There you have it. 100-300m: Consistent 100 meter groups in the .60 -.75 inch range, 2.5-3.0 inches at 300 meters were the norm. In the 1970s, the .222 Rem. Posted: 11/11/2012 6:04:07 PM EST [#2] Velocity with a 105gr bullet from both is 2750 fps. Only a few metric calibers have been really popular in the United States6.5mm and 7mmso the Great 6mms are relatively few in number. After that, it was the 6.5 and 6CM show. For now, though, it is anything but a sea change amongst the broader Special Missions Units. I wont even mention primers as that is just generic across the board with any caliber at this point. Click here to view the cartridge and chamber print on the SAAMI website. I therefore feel that Hornadys claimed performance data is feasible. Long-range started with a cold shot at 600 meters using the reticle followed by one at 1100 meters using confirmed elevation dialed in, holding for wind. It doesn't need a .308 sized action to work. projectiles make up for their lower MV with less wind deflection, the toughest variable to battle at long range. I think the point of the arc is that it works in an ar 15. Did not hit as hard but it was no slouch, anything it hit would notice for sure. It's no surprise Hornady chose a 6mm bullet, either. No knobs, just a hold using the reticle, find it, read the wind, hold, and press, adjust as needed and repeat. Were going backwards! Some have stated that it offers comparable ballistics to larger 6 mm cartridges like the 6mm Creedmoor and .243 Winchester, but out of a smaller cartridge, however this simply is not true when comparing muzzle velocities between them. Some may scoff at the old-fashioned roundnose bullet, but it is a terrific game bullet, and I have never had to use a second shot to down a deer. I have a precision set up AR in 224 Valkyrie. At the moment, it remains a proprietary caliber with one source of magazines and ammo, unproven. You won't have to fiddle with necking/reforming in 6XC. Check one out and join the race to the bottom. We're going backwards! The .243 Win. And its performance is effective with a variety of bullets. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. In my mind, if 6BR would readily fit in a small frame AR there would be no reason for 6ARC. This is only a slight victory, however. You will not find better quality and consistency when it comes to Lapua. Minuteman. just get a 6mm hagar. can exceed it by 500 fps and the 240 Weatherby by 600 fps. Legend, 450 Bushmaster. Most problems outside a war zone are handled nicely with 20 rounds and a couple of spare magazines. The 6mm AR needs to be sized down from Grendel brass, or fire-formed from 6PPC brass. Wilson Combat will offer WC-15 6mm ARC rifles with our match-grade, 18" fluted/threaded Tactical Hunter barrel. So far, I have not laid my eyes or hands on a single 6mm ARC cartridge or rifle, so I will withhold judgment until I test one. I'm thinking most, if not all of these are bolt actions, but there are plenty of AR rifles ready to chew up a few thousand 6mm ARC rounds for you. Retested today with 26.3 grs. Supporter. Slightly bigger still is the 6CM, which invokes much cooler H1000 powder (to best all these in barrel life). The rim diameter of the 6mm ARC is 0.441 inches, while the 243 is slightly larger at 0.471 inches. However, the 6mm ARC will service the military and civilian shooters more often in AR-15-type rifles, meaning barrel lengths will likely be closer to 18 inches. [citation needed]. I had three high capacity magazines using white followers, two 17 rounders with green followers. We show you how. CMMG MK47 Banshee Review 25 Hogs Plus Coyotes Helped the Research, Top 5 Braced Pistols for Hog Hunting in 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTfyrMiXps, Remington at Gunsite! It is a 6 BR REM barrel that came off a rifle that I bought for the Remington 600 donor action. Truth be told, the magnum race is still underway. F-Class A to Z with Erik Cortina + Special Guest! Jan 13, 2021. Ill be publishing a full overview story covering this rifle, but in the meantime, here are some specs from the CMMG Product Page: CMMGs ENDEAVOR line of rifles are now available in Hornadys new 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge). Hold for elevation never changed, 4 mils at the top garnered hits at from 4.2-4.7 mils each time, misses were generally wind. Maybe in a rural area where ranges stretch out, but movement here will be a rarity. The latest, sleekest, high B.C. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. bullets straight and seated above the powder reservoir. After forming some cases I shot Berger 105 hybrid targets over 27.5 grs. Just pouring powder in and checking it by eye. It has had moderate success in various target venues. Comparing 6mm ARC to 6mm CR is is apples and oranges again. I to have a precision .224 V and would love to see a real world side be side comparison with the 6 ARC. As a follow-up exercise, I plan to use QuickDesign software to create a more accurate model for the 6mm ARC.