Mapleshadebravely triedto save her kits, and almost drowned herself in doing so, but ultimately failed. Because she didnt blame one cat entirely, her mind created the visions to be one kit less with each kill. Appledusk blamed Mapleshade for getting their kits drowned and turned Mapleshade away. I totally agree about Ashfur haha. Finally, they had made it to the Riverclan border, only a raging river not standing in their way. I really like your analysis! -kept it a secret Nothing, remember? They go to a place beyond StarClan, where they still get to live eternally, but cannot speak with living cats anymore. StarClan really chose the wrong cat to try and mess up, because she just tried her best to protect her kits. I decide who eats it. He growled indignantly. She suddenly heard someone approaching. And just as Mapleshade expected, a silhouette of a cat was waiting for them. The other bridge was way too far away. Does Frecklewish really belong in the Dark Forest? I blinked. Now.can I ask you a question? To be a loner when all you tried to do was love? We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Imagine how she would've reacted if she'd gone to StarClan instead of the Dark Forest, since she'd be re-united with her kits. Frecklewish asks if Birchface, Frecklewish's brother, the warrior who Appledusk killed, is their father. However, on the way there, the river suddenly flooded and her kits were swept away. When he started to become close to Bluepaw, she scolded him. Mapleshade tries to take the kits across the river, but it's flooded, and the kits drown; Mapleshade herself only survives because a RiverClan patrol pulls her out in time. Her sanity dropped low and StarClan didnt know (Yes, I believe in the StarClan is Idiots Theory) because they dont know everything. If a motivation to murder was what mattered, then Ashfur (and maybe Hollyleaf) would also be in the Dark Forest. Or perhaps join ShadowClan or WindClan? In her desperation to get her kits to safety, Mapleshade tried to take themacross the river to seek refuge in RiverClan. Waves of rain spiraled down from the sky, crashing down on the clearing and the roof of our den. But they face distrust due to their half-Clan heritage. Though Mapleshade had a sad backstory, I dont think you should still kill your kits, just because your mate betrayed you. Darktail | Rain | Sleekwhisker | Raven | Nettle | Juniperclaw, TigerClan You should be ashamed that you deserted your Clan on a fish-brained mission! I dont want you to be tired when we leave.. I should have had all that! Ashfurs motives were clearly bad, even though he never actually killed anyone. Come. . As for point 3) yes, I agree that is really a terrible reason, and I honestly cannot believe that it is actually the case. The group arrived at the river. Deathberries, also known by Twolegs as yew berries, are a type of poisonous fruit resembling red olives. I will not let my kits be treated like this! Ravenwing. So, I think theres enough evidence to say that Thistleclaws motives were bad. She whispers doubts into his head about his leadership skills and urges him to make it clear he's in charge. Unlike Crookedjaw, Thistleclaw failed to become leader and didn'tescape the Dark Forest's influence,joining them after his death. And not only will I explain that it the death of her kits was her fault, but I will also explain how she did not need to avenge her kits. Sol | One Eye | Slash's Group (Slash, Bee, Snake) | Stripes's Group (Stripes) | Jacques and Susan | Darktail | Rain | Dodge's Group (Dodge) | Jaggedtooth | Willie's Group (Willie), Non-Cats In the second paragraph (I think) Mapleshade was murdering, but im not sure if that counts as for fun. Personality and Relationships. Days later, Mapleshade discovers that Reedshine of RiverClan is expecting Appledusk's kits. and I could go on with Hawkfrost but you get the point only one that can't be justified under this ruling is Thistleclaw which yes he was manipulative to a minor he didn't actually break the warrior code there (Despite it being all types of wrong) and we can make the argument that he wanted to make himself stronger for his clan by going to the dark forest. One thing which in my mind seems like a pretty obvious bad thing that could get someone sent to the Dark Forest is murder. Well, Mapleshade died after she killed Appledusk, whom she had blamed for the death of her kits as well as blaming Ravenwing and Frecklewish. She is too late, and the she-cat fades from beneath her. Why do you think I'm here? Needless to say, the Clan does not take this well, and Mapleshade and her kits are exiled. (when he was an apprentice)All of the promises, lectures, yelling, scolding, and fighting was so that he wouldnt end up like her. To be rejected twice? CROOKEDSTAR LITERALLY WELCOMED GRAYSTRIPE (Silverstreams mate of thunderclan) WITH OPEN ARMS IN ORDER FOR HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS DARLING KITS! Is Birchface really their father? I went through the agony of bearing your kits! Crimsonwish lay in another wide hole in the den, sleeping away peacefully. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan. Mapleshade is a large, thick-furred,tortoiseshell-and-white she-cat with amber eyes, anda long, thick, fluffy, white tail. I am an admin of this site. Which, spoilers for Lost Stars would make sense considering Shadowpaw is hearing what may be a bad/evil StarClan warrior in his mind. She shook her head, trying to rid off the intruding thought, but it was no use. Mapleshade deeply loved her kits, especially Patchkit, who seemed to be the most attached to her. Mapleshade opened her mouth to speak, but Larchkit took over for her. All credit belongs to Erin Hunter. Once he was gone, I turned to my littermates. That place is full of weak-willed cowards who clung to the warrior code like ants to a leaf in a puddle. Wasppaw let out a yelp as he tumbled to the ground. He should be in the Place of No Stars for all eternity. Bluestar: I could take over the body of a nice, young she-cat-that would do me just fine. You now know the truth about everything, as well as not being murdered by Appledusk; you just fell in the river. Alternately, maybe it has to do with your connections in StarClan. But don't worry, I made them pay. Created by Meks. Are Mapleshade kits in Starclan? Ravenwing was grateful, Mapleshade could tell. And, by murder, of course I mean not killing in self-defense or in battle, but rather killing someone due to a personal grudge, or (although we havent seen this happen in this series) just for the thrill of killing another person. Along with her she brought her dear, beloved kits: Patchkit, Larchkit, and Petalkit. Like how you never thought of Mapleshade as evil. Tigerstar | Brokenstar | Hawkfrost | Thistleclaw | Mapleshade | Darkstripe | Shredtail | Snowtuft | Antpelt | Breezepelt | Clawface | Redwillow | Silverhawk | Juniperclaw | Darktail | Houndleap | Sparrowfeather | Rushtooth | Maggottail, The Kin Kang the Conqueror (Marvel Cinematic Universe). We never actually see her say or think anything about feeling bad for killing Ashfur. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Warriors: Mapleshade's Vengeance also includes a teaser to Warriors Super Edition: Crookedstar's Promise. She decides that Frecklewish will be her next victim, and uses a mouse to lure her to Snakerocks. He sees her killing Frecklewish with adders. The next day she heads into ThunderClan's territory, where she learns from an apprentice that Frecklewish had watched her cross the river. Brokenstar | Tigerstar | Blackstar | Jaggedtooth | Darkstripe | Darktail | Sleekwhisker | Clawface | Redwillow | Juniperclaw, ThunderClan Yall May ask why send the others to the Place of No Stars? Well my friends, heres the key: Oakstar Banished a newly queen and her three kits, resulting in them dying. Frequently, the blame falls on everyone but Mapleshade. Welcome to r/WarriorCats! Wasppaw was seething. Although now that I'm thinking about it more, Brokenstar could be in the "murdering for fun" group. Mapleshade briefly trained him in his dreams, buteventually didn't bother with him anymore, as she knew he was "already doomedby StarClan". During the battle between the Clans, StarClan and the Dark Forest, she tried to kill a ThunderClan senior warrior, Sandstorm, becauseshe had everything Mapleshade ever wanted: a mate who loved her, having kits that she could watch grow up and one day have kits of their own, and respect from her Clanmates, all of which she believed StarClan stole from her. 5 Cats That Everyone Thinks Deserved to go to the Dark Forest but dont (and one Cat who Absolutely does) by HollyleafTheGreat, Skye [Skypaw//Skymist//Misty Moon On A Fareway Sky//Has two fanfics going on! Mapleshade after she is exiled from ThunderClan. Mapleshade could never make the Clans suffer enough for what had been done to her. It was too far, and they were tired. Then, she finds out that Frecklewish watched her kits drown. We don't know how magic and stuff works in this world. Along the way they learn important lessons about life, war, love, and death. Petalkit didnt really listen to the conversation, Mapleshade observed, because she was staring wide-eyed at all te scenery. Mapleshade killed to avenge her Oakstar should have gone to DF like exiling a queen and kits really dude. They are so young and full of potential. However, after allying himself with BloodClan, a large group of violent stray cats from the twoleg city,Tigerstar was betrayed and slain by their leader, Scourge. Ashfur certainly didnt seem to feel bad about his actions during his life, but I suppose its possible (although not super likely imo, because why would dying make him change his mind?) TVTropes is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. Appledusk leaped on to the stepping stones and on to the river. Thanks Momma!. Are Mapleshade kits in Starclan? It was entirely, 100% her fault. Larchpaw just looked at the sky absent-mindedly. After spending moons in the Dark Forest, her appearance became rather distorted andemaciated, witha scarred head, muzzle and face, and ragged, patched, matted fur. Thats why I think you are right on. Hes been spending alot of time in the medicine cat den, and I really need an apprentice. Cats like Tigerstar, Thistleclaw, and Brokenstar who viewed StarClan and stupid and weak simply did not want to go there after their deaths. Appledusk returned with a fish in his hands. Being ordered to leave RiverClan's territory without even getting to attend her kits' burial, Mapleshade was heartbroken and enraged all over again, and vowed revenge upon her former mate. Also, WHY COULD DARKSTAR NOT HAVE BEEN AS GENEROUS AS CROOKEDSTAR?! Ravenwing, are we going to miss Half-Moon Meeting? I asked, praying to StarClan that we wouldnt miss it. Darkstar denied Mapleshade a place in RiverClan, which fueled her anger even more. He told you to wait. You have betrayed me and my kits. He rejected her in front of RiverClan, who then refused to let her stay. She takes her kits across the river, but they drown. His apprentice, Perchpaw, attacked Mapleshade and gave her wounds that would later on end her life. She tries to carry the kits across the river but they drown, and when she gets . A nearby RiverClan patrol saved her, but to her horror, all three of her kits drowned, with Appledusk blaming her for their deaths. Hollyleaf's Expecting Kits? When the Clans moved to new territories, Mapleshade followed and plotted with the other Dark Forest cats to destroy them once and for all, takingin and training more living recruits than ever before. Mapleshade watched as the three kits ran up to sniff it. 2. This is due to the fact that,unlike most of the other major villains, whose evil actions are driven by a lust for something they've never had, Mapleshade's evil actions are driven by grief and anger over something she has lost. She kills Ravenwing at the Moonstone. My opinion on the warrior code part 2 by Ivywish, Top 5 Cats with HUGE insecurities by Riverspirit, Mojoflight AKA Mojo (She/Her and/or Hu/Hum), Frostpaw/moon is running for Senior Warrior , Was Goosefeather really delusional? Get some rest, Patchpaw. Mapleshade's kits survive the journey to RiverClan and grow up in the new Clan. Mapleshade padded through the thick layers of bracken covering the wooden floor, Patchkit's scruff gripped in her teeth and her two other kits bundling on behind her. Thistleclaw was arrogant, aggressive, and had a thirst for leadership. Of c-course! So, how can Ashfur be "not evil" in his heart, but Mapleshade is? And, yeah I put Mapleshade in the murdering because of a purpose category (wanting to get revenge because of the death of her kits,) but not the murdering for fun category. At the Gathering, Mapleshade sees Reedshine with Appledusk and is jealous. this bothers me lots, because part of me genuinely wanted Mapleshade to go to StarClan (yeah, I'd read the books prior to that) when I read Mapleshade's Vengeance. She made him watch his mother drown, his brother fallin love with a ThunderClan she-cat, and his mate and all but one of hisdaughtersdie of sickness. The following night, she waits at Highstones and kills Ravenwing at the Moonstone. Who are you?. Yeah, I think that they(dead cats) can make up rules as they go. Oh Starclan, why did you take our mother from us? While Wasppaw was still pinned down by Larchpaw, Petalpaw came out with my mother, Mapleshade. It is known that Mapleshade and a few others had survived the Great Battle, as she's later seen with Silverhawk in The Broken Code. And thats no mistake, as she uses a wooden bridge to cross into Fourtrees, and could have used that bridge, noticed the mini-tsunami, and waited for it to pass. I will never forget this. She then uncovered his grave and left his corpse to be eaten by a hawk. He asks her why, and she tells him that every cat in ThunderClan must die, and that he is already doomed. Or, I think the case could also be made that she killed Ashfur out of self-defense/ to protect the clan because he was clearly unhinged and a threat. He really had no real reason behind killing kits the way he did by attacking them ("training them."). Couldnt Mapleshade wander into non-territory and cross a safer way? -her only meeting up with Oakheart at night, Mapleshade: Vicky cleared this up, confirming that Mapleshade is indeed a tortoiseshell, and changing Patchkit's description slightly to match her. But, there is still one glaring example that trashes this whole theory anyway: Ashfur. Yeah, Larchkit chimed in, Hes nice! Patchkit nodded along with them. She had avenged her kits! In her desperation to get her kits to safety, she tried to takethem across the stepping stones to RiverClan, only for them to be swept away by the swollen river. As she nurses, she asks Frecklewish to fetch her water. Its about Patchkit.. She "loved [her kits] too much" which is what drove her to insanity, and to get revenge on the cats that caused their deaths. No one messes with any of us.. Birchface will greatly be missed. The kits looked satisfied. Also included in a three-pack bundle with the rest of. : Mapleshade internally calls a WindClan patrol "fools" after she gets away with taking the rabbit they were chasing. Then mayyybbeeee you could make the argument that Hollyleaf did not go to the Dark Forest because her motives were good she murdered Ashfur to protect her family and Clan because the secret of their parentage getting out would damage them somehow. Lets start off by setting the scence (MAJOR spoilers for Mapleshades Vengeance): Mapleshade, a ThunderClan cat, is secretly mates with Appledusk, a RiverClan cat. Mapleshade teaches Goosefeather how to fight. Patchpaw, can you get Crimsonwish a mouse from the freshkill pile? Ravenwing called from the other side of the den. Mapleshade then became a rogue and quicklyfell into insanity, her mind crawling withhallucinations of her drowned kits. She brings him to the Dark Forest and reveals she's been watching him throughout his life. Long before she troubled the dreams of Crookedstar or Tigerclaw, Mapleshade was a warrior of ThunderClan. While he fell in love with Snowfur, Thistleclaw despised her sister, Bluestar. Why did Mapleshade hate Sandstorm? She is pregnant with his kits, and when she gives birth, Frecklewish assumes theyre her brother, Birchfaces, because no living cat claims them and Birchface has died at the paws of Appledusk. And, thats not all! Tigerstar | Thistleclaw | Mapleshade | Goosefeather | Ashfur | Darkstripe | Hollyleaf, RiverClan It's later revealed by StarClan that ever since the Great Battle, the Dark Forest had been nearly empty, most of the evil spirits having been destroyed in the battle or faded away afterwards. Mapleshade swears to get revenge on Appledusk. Later on, Mapleshade delivers two toms and a she-cat and names them Larchkit, Patchkit, and Petalkit, respectively. Mapleshade names her kits Petalkit, Patchkit and Larchkit. She stumbles to the barn where she'd slept before, and falls unconscious for the last time. Do you make that promise? And, I would classify Ashfur trying to kill innocent cats to get revenge on Squirrelflight as "evil." Appledusk returned with a fish in his hands. Nothing, remember? Few who knew the noble RiverClan leader in life could have ever guessed the dark shadow that haunted his every step. What adventures, and secrets, await the three kits? Thistleclaw was absolutely insane and he let his insanity take him over the edge. The three kits nodded hastily, and started gobbling up the fish. Wasppaw! So, first off, this article did not change my mind about her (though it has good points). The tom that was truly the father. Your disloyalty makes me sick. Although I was trying not to let my personal bias cloud my analysis in the post. I'm not trying to say here that I think Mapleshade should be in StarClan, or that her actions are better than Ashfur's (they're not because she actually did kill cats while Ashfur didn't.) Well, Mapleshade died after she killed Appledusk, whom she had blamed for the death of her kits as well as blaming Ravenwing and Frecklewish. She admired them quickly. I love them, and I love you.. She feels like she's found a place where she belongs, and is ready to wreak vengeance for all eternity. Once exiled, Mapleshade crosses the stepping stones when the rivers going to flood. You told me you loved me! ", Mapleshade demanding Crookedkit's fateful promise, Mapleshade is a ragged[11] tortoiseshell-and-white she-cat[12] with amber eyes.[13]. Leader: Oakstar sturdy brown tom with amber eyes Apprentice, Petalpaw, Deputy: Beetail dark brown striped tabby tom, Medicine cat: Ravenwingsmall black tom with blue eyes Apprentice, Patchpaw, Mapleshadethick-furred tortoiseshell she-cat with amber eyes Apprentice, Wasppaw, Deerdapplesilver and black tabby she-cat, Frecklewishspeckled golden-furred she-cat with dark amber eyes Apprentice, Larchpaw, Nettlebreezeginger tabby tom with light blue eyes, Seedpeltlight brown-and-white tom with green eyes, Thrushtalonbrown tabby tom with dark blue eyes, Flintfurginger tabby tom with light blue eyes, Crimsonwishdark ginger tabby she-cat with blueish-purple eyes, Watersparka dark blue-gray she-cat with red-amber eyes, Dewspecklelight brown-and-white tabby she-cat with amber eyes Apprentice, Rushpaw, Patchpawthick-furred calico tom with green eyes, Petalpawlight brown she-cat with light green eyes, Larchpawdark brown tom with dark amber eyes, Wasppawblack-and-white tom with blue eyes, Rushpawblack she-cat with heather-colored eyes, Rabbitfurlight gray tabby tom with amber eyes, Barkhollydark brown she-cat with crimson eyes, Leader: Darkstarblack she-cat with green-blue eyes, Medicine cat: Dewsplashlight brown she-cat with blue eyes Apprentice, Rainpaw, Appleduskpale brown tom with green eyes Apprentice: Perchpaw, Milkfurwhite she-cat with gray-green eyes, MudgashOrange tabby she-cat with amber eyes, Perchtailgolden tabby tom with torn ears, Birchwishgolden-brown she-cat with green eyes, Rainpawblue-gray tom with dark blue eyes, Reedshine (Mother of Lightkitorange tabby she-kit; Applekitpale brown tom). Darkstar This cats got many problems-_- Do you make that promise?.Mapleshade demanding Crookedkit's fateful promise. [] You have betrayed me and my kits. However, when her kits were picked up from the river by a RiverClan patrol, Ravenwing realized who their real father was after receiving an omen with three reeds floating in a small stream that appeared in his den. I hope you never see Ravenwing in StarClan. Hawkfrost almost destroyed an enetire clan and was on the same path as tigerstar, he was ready to kill without mercy.I feel like thats enough to go to hell, 2)Hollyleaf didnt go to the dark forest because she was able to make up for what she did, and she faught to the death for her clan instead of the dark forest, 3)Ashfur didnt pretend to feel bad but starclan gives us the reason he went there.he did what he did out of love.I dont think that justifys anything but thats the reason, 4)Crowfeathers sidequest kind of shows us that you dont choose, he was almost killed and woke up in the dark forest, but he didnt choose to go there and was afraid until ashfur came and asked what the heck was going on with him, All in all i think the concept of starclan and the darkforest are pretty akin to our own, if your evil you go to hell, if your good you go to heaven, About your 1) point, my intention was never to argue that any cat in the Dark Forest was a good cat, who didn't deserve to be in the Dark Forest, just to point out there is no defined metric as to why cats go to the Dark Forest, beyond a nebulous sense of "oh, well they're bad.". she went insane, and, yes, unlike Ashfur she did murder kitties, but she also "loved too much". I dont want your fat, greedy self eating this precious piece of prey.. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. At a Gathering, there are tensions between ThunderClan and RiverClan due to a recent battle where two ThunderClan cats died (including the leader's son Birchface), but this doesn't stop Mapleshade of ThunderClan from talking to her secret mate Appledusk of RiverClan. Ashfur still attempted to murder kitties. Go eat it while your mother and I talk.. Tigerstar | Blackfoot | Darkstripe | Jaggedtooth, Rogues There is no reason hed know and she wouldnt, but she didnt care. Can you imagine what that feels like? Join us, Warrior! If he was the medicine cat, why does he need me? She fought in the Great Battle and attempted to kill Sandstorm, but instead killed Spottedleaf for protecting Sandstorm, where she was chased back to the Dark Forest. Oh my dear kits, you will be the best kits Thunderclan has ever seen. What did Ravenwing want with the runt of her litter? Deathberries come from the dark-leaved yew bush and can be characterized by their bright red color. Momma, where are we going? Petalkit squeaked. It's worth putting up with him for now, if he can do the same for us. The Blog Monthly is back written by Lil, fresh off the printing press Hello, everyone! No! You have everything that I wanted, Sandstorm! Im tired! Larchkit complained. Super stupid imo. I was wondering.if you would let me take Patchkit as my apprentice. Bluestar and Mapleshade are actually quite the same Mapleshade watched as the three kits ran up to sniff it. Mapleshade laughed softly. This is Thesecret1070. About your prophecy, it could mean anything!!! Mapleshade is evil. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Under Mapleshade's influence, Tigerstar killed many Clan cats in his quest to rule the entire forest, eventually uniting ShadowClan and RiverClan as TigerClan briefly. Its been a little while but Im glad to be back I am Lilybreeze, and I have a ton of news to catch *drumrolls* at last, the moment all you wonderful folks have been waiting for! Appledusk refused, but then his new mate, Reedshine, already pregnant, arrived on the scene. Y-You're supposed to be dead!" Then, she kills Appledusk, but is killed by Perchpaw. Patchkit had to be carried for too . Mapleshade then moved onto Tigerkit, the grandson ofOakstar, who previously banished Mapleshade and her kits, and nephew of Frecklewish, one of her victims in life. So I lay there, in my nest, safely tucked away from the rain. But, if tricking StarClan like that is so easy, then why didnt the other cats in the Dark Forest, like Darkstripe, Hawkfrost, or Thistleclaw do that?